Create a PCI boot manager option ROM

[bomz]

Create a PCI boot manager option ROM (save in bios)

I absolutely don't understand anything.

Change ROM of built LAN Card with plpbtrom.bin? if it's not work may I back native ROM? How boot PLoP - through IBA FE Slot 0258 v4110???

I try plpbtrom.bin, press ESCAPE but don't return to BIOS. I find ROM flash utilities to my built LAN Card. Help!

[Elmar]

please use the google language tool to translate from your language to English. what you are writing makes no sense

elmar

[bomz]

Google gives a terrible translation. This have no sense because I absolutely don't understand what to do, not only because my English very poor, but in programming sense.

My MotherBoard P4P800 SE Bios AMI
MotherBoard  have integrated Marvel Yukon Internet Adapter
I download from Home Site last flash utility 88E8001
http://www.marvell.com/support.html
Flash PLPBTROM.BIN?



My MotherBoard USB died, I want make PCI to USB bootable

[Elmar]

i dont know what i should explain.

you cannot simply flash plpbtrom.bin to your bios. you have to download your bios rom. replace the network rom  part that is in your bios rom file with plpbtrom.bin and then flash the bios chip with the new bios rom file.

but flashing bios is dangerous!

[bomz]

I hope that's need only LAN ROM flashing. and no changes in MAIN ROM. I don't want change main BIOS. Thanks

   You can create a pci option rom file with [110]plpbtrom-0.5.zip. You
   can store the option rom in your bios or to the rom of a network card
   and run it from there.

[bomz]

But it very interesting idea to decode marvel ROM and add where plop usb driver

[bomz]

That's right?

yukpxe.lom - PXE ROM Yukon

[Elmar]

looks good, but continue at your own risk

[bomz]

Is it correct - if I flash plpbt.bin only to LAN CARD, and choose in Bios Boot Menu - PXE BOOT, PLoP don't boot?

[Elmar]

Is it correct - if I flash plpbt.bin only to LAN CARD, and choose in Bios Boot Menu - PXE BOOT, PLoP don't boot?

i don't understand you, this question makes no sense

[bomz]

You can create a pci option rom file with [110]plpbtrom-0.5.zip. You
   can store the option rom in your bios or to the rom of a network card
   and run it from there.

I think that when I choose "Yukon PXE" in Bios boot menu, "Main Bios" boot "LAN Bios".

[Elmar]

I think that when I choose "Yukon PXE" in Bios boot menu, "Main Bios" boot "LAN Bios".

  please try the google translate tool

[bomz]

When I read this, I thought that the main BIOS runs firmware embedded on the motherboard network card, but instead is enclosed plop

[Elmar]

when you did everything correct, then the boot manager should start when you select the network option.

[bomz]

or to the rom of a network card

But I see only one method - when ploprom integrated into "Main Bios"

[Elmar]

or to the rom of a network card

old computers dont have an onboard network card. years ago, you had to buy a network card and plug it into the slot of the motherboard. many of those network cards had an optional boot rom to boot from the network. the text above means that you can store the boot manager on such boot roms. do you understand? you have a completely different hardware.

you have a pnp bios and you have to replace the network option rom in the bios file with the boot manager. (you did that)

[bomz]

OK. this is a different rom

[Elmar]

i cannot help you, why dont you simply install the boot manager to the mbr or start it from cd to have usb boot?

[bomz]

because I want emergency boot usb, without any CD.

[Elmar]

when yukpxe.rom is a boot rom for your network card that is not included in the bios rom (when this is the case, then you are still able to boot and repair the network rom when something goes wrong), then flash it with plpbt.rom.

no risk, no fun.  you want it, then don't talk, just do it

[bomz]

yukondg.exe - says that where is any ROM in my lan card, when I try to back up it, I get only fully empty file. but when I connect a lan cable to this lan card which I never use, because I have PCI Intel M100, and try to boot from bios. "DHCP server find" , "exit from PXE Rom" and boot from HD. so I am not sure where my real Lan Card ROM.
http://s1.ipicture.ru/uploads/20110201/wZ13YezC.jpg
http://s1.ipicture.ru/uploads/20110201/OVk98gG4.jpg

[bomz]

I extract module from my Main Bios , yukpxe.lom - this is the module of Main Bios, this is not a PXE Rom, this is Option ROm



not only size the same inside the same

[bomz]

[bomz]

IBA FE Slot - it's Intel Boot Agent for LAN Boot. it's universal and not belong from biult card to motherboard or PCI, all model of Intel cards also universal. LAN Card flash by BOOTUTIL, ROM have unstandart form BootIMG.FLB - which is container with all types of net card ROM. If you save installing firmware you get usual ROM file

http://www.intel.com/support/ru/network/adapter/pro100/bootagent/sb/cs-008362.htm
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/detail_desc.aspx?agr=y&dwnldid=19186&lang=rus

If find a method to patch or change Intel Lan Card ROM - this gives simple universal method to boot PLoP.

[bomz]

Try to flash plpbt.rom using UniFlash 1.40 to Intel and Yukon, hope that Uniflash can't check ROM file. Unsuccessful. 
I think Uniflash don't know this chipsets - FLASH in menu locked, and backup - zero file.
---------------------------------------
uniflash -pcirom -e plpbt.rom

unknown chip!

[bomz]

Elmar
I think that I can't find utilities which may flash Intel Lan Card memory with random ROM, I try Uniflash in force mode without succes. BootUtil deassembly show that it's made without assembler.
If I go to technical support and flash it there with programmator(?) may I hope that PLoP may work as Extended BIOS? How you debug plop.rom when write it?

[bomz]

This work. Author of FLASH utility makes version for Intel 100M, but only in uncompile variant . It must be compile under linux with rare C compiler. I am wait 4 month, now one guy find my post, compile it and falsh his Intel 100M with PLPBT.ROM - and say that all OK. But don't leave compile flash-prog

[Elmar]

This work. Author of FLASH utility makes version for Intel 100M, but only in uncompile variant . It must be compile under linux with rare C compiler. I am wait 4 month, now one guy find my post, compile it and falsh his Intel 100M with PLPBT.ROM - and say that all OK. But don't leave compile flash-prog

its difficult to understand what you want to say. please, when your english is bad, then use some translation tool like google. when you write some words that nobody understands, then your posting is useless.

[bomz]

it works. author flash utility made a version for Intel's 100 M,
but in the uncompiled version. it must be compiled under Linux rare
C compiler, I've been waiting four months, and now this guy found my post,
compile it and plop burned in ROM network card, says it worked out.
so now does not have a compiled version

Google allow translate only words. slavic's language use absolutely other sentence word oder, Poland closer to Latin, Ukrainiane the middle, and Russian absolutely not like English. When preposition.....

[bomz]

I have a compile program, but don't know how run it under linux now.

Main: PLPBT.ROM may be flash into Net Card Memory and Start from Bios PXE menu

[Elmar]

I have a compile program, but don't know how run it under linux now.

Main: PLPBT.ROM may be flash into Net Card Memory and Start from Bios PXE menu

what do you want to say with this posting?

[bomz]

I want to say that PLOP may be flash to NetWorkCard FlashMemory - but I don't do that personally.

[bomz]

Elmar I do!!!!

flash plpbt.rom to Intell Desktop 100M and in my BiosBootMenu - PLOP. My USB is bootable!!!

[Elmar]

 

[bomz]

kubuntu-kde4-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso

backup net card firmware with native utility. for Intel 100M

bootutil -E
......
[nicnumber]
......

bootutil -saveimage -file=intel.rom -nic=[nicnumber]

make plop.rom with net card id

plpbtrom -grabid intel.rom plpbtrom.bin plpbt.rom

Grabbing vendorid (0x8086) and deviceid (0x1229)
plpbt.rom created

resize plpbt.rom by zero to 65536 bytes with FileResizer or HexEditor

Use pciutils-3.1.7-DOS or Everest or .....

LSPCI

Bus 2, Device 11, Function 0   Intel 82557/82558/82559 EtherExpress PRO/100B Adapter
02:0b.0

boot kubuntu. I boot it from HD with GRUB4DOS

find --set-root --ignore-floppies /casper/vmlinuz
kernel /casper/vmlinuz file=/preseed/kubuntu-kde4.seed boot=casper quiet splash --
initrd /casper/initrd.gz

copy files:  flashrom, libpci3_3.1.7-4ubuntu2_i386.deb, plpbt.rom to HOME directory

run system console

sudo passwd root
..........
su [password]

sudo dpkg -i ./libpci3_3.1.7-4ubuntu2_i386.deb
./flashrom -r intel.rom -p nicintel:pci=02:0B.0
./flashrom -w plpbt.bin -p nicintel:pci=02:0B.0

or (?)

sudo dpkg -i ./libpci3_3.1.7-4ubuntu2_i386.deb
sudo ./flashrom -r intel.rom -p nicintel:pci=02:ob.0

reboot. in bios menu you can see PLOP BOOT MANAGER

to see all supported flash chips and pci devices

./flashrom -L

BE CAREFULLY
flashrom.zip

http://files.mail.ru/MCY9TN screens

[Elmar]

sudo passwd root
..........
su [password]

sudo dpkg -i ./libpci3_3.1.7-4ubuntu2_i386.deb
./flashrom -r intel.rom -p nicintel:pci=02:0B.0
./flashrom -w plpbt.bin -p nicintel:pci=02:0B.0

or (?)

when you do a "sudo bash" then you don't have to make always a sudo

regards
elmar

[bomz]

for today I don't know about linux anything

[bomz]

Option ROM:   initialized,  press D to disable the boot manager.   sec... boot manager disabled.

what it's this?

-hidden      disable option rom text output  --- this?

[Elmar]

when you press D then the boot manager will be skipped in the boot sequence

[bomz]

ok. i disable it.and boot plop from Bios Boot Menu - F8 Ami Bios

is it possible to change plop.rom config like plpbt.bin?

Computer now have much more functionality - not only usb bootable

I use NetworkBoot 1 time for 7 year - want to try it how it work

[Elmar]

is it possible to change plop.rom config like plpbt.bin?

you have to configure plpbt.bin
then create the rom
then flash the rom

[bomz]

ok. plpbt.bin and plpbt.rom have different size, so I think that they have principal difference

[bomz]

I trying to boot with PLOP.ROM some CD disk, only Acronis DiskDirector boot OK, grub don't see HD, PLOP booting with syslinux from CD - don't see HD, XP LIVE CD don't boot
PLOP 5.0.12
from HD Windows XP boot OK

[bomz]

Oh, my English!

I do such experiment:
I use plpbt.img from native archive which I download from your site - 5.0.12 version. I boot it from HD with GRUB4DOS, with maping for memory, and try to boot CD disk making with GRUB4DOS - no correct boot, GRUB from CD says on command 'root': corrupt partition table. And do the same using 5.0.8 version - all is OK.

PS. From the point of view USB - are this version 8 and 12 different?

5.0.11.2 - OK

I re-flash my NetCard with 11.2. as you say change config, all is OK with CD. Now I must try USB, but I have not any USB device.

ps One little idea - it's be usefull to have option to see and boot logical partition too

[bomz]

@ECHO OFF
plpchk.exe
echo %errorlevel%
plpdisd
plpchk.exe
echo %errorlevel%
pause

after disable check gives backcode 1


sorry I understand - it disable but download

[bomz]

VIA VT6212L 5-Port USB 2.0 PCI Controller Card
Transcend TS4GJF600

Why only force USB 1.1 mode 2 ? 
=====================================
Because VIA VT6212L 5-Port USB 2.0 PCI Controller Card have 3.3 V instead of 5.0 V so I need pci to usb with NEC chip

http://s016.radikal.ru/i335/1105/36/ee54d96cadc0.jpg
=====================================
The reason was in PCI slot version. change to ST Lab U165 USB2.0 4+1 ports VIA chip all OK with USB 2.0

[bomz]

After boot from USb with plop.rom: grldr, acronis, dos, plpbt.bin - boot OK, but all which have ntldr - no: xp boot diskette, live ram cd, windows xp.....

[Elmar]

After boot from USb with plop.rom: grldr, acronis, dos, plpbt.bin - boot OK, but all which have ntldr - no: xp boot diskette, live ram cd, windows xp.....

because the default winxp is not able to boot from usb. the web is full of that topic and solutions.

[bomz]

I boot XP not from USb, I boot it from HD from maping ISO.
Computer hang - reset need

Even if I boot from usb only mbr - it boot grub from HD, and GRUB try boot anything with ntldr

[Elmar]

I boot XP not from USb, I boot it from HD from maping ISO.
Computer hang - reset need

Even if I boot from usb only mbr - it boot grub from HD, and GRUB try boot anything with ntldr

what do you think why it does not work

[bomz]

some conflict with usb driver.

ps but I still happy that I have any posibility to use usb. CD - terrible

[Elmar]

some conflict with usb driver.

ps but I still happy that I have any posibility to use usb. CD - terrible

conflict is the wrong word, but its because xp boot and usb regardless that its an iso on an usb drive. no xp usb -> iso can't be accessed -> booting not possible

[bomz]

in Russian then one program influence on another - this call conflict

[bomz]

I put grub mbr to usb flash drive with bootice, grldr with menu is on HD.
boot plpbt.rom - usb - grub - winpe - reset
boot plpbt.rom - usb - grub - dos ima - OK
boot plpbt.rom - usb - grub - acronis - OK

[Elmar]

in Russian then one program influence on another - this call conflict

a conflict can be between two usb drivers, but in this case, there is no second driver. the win usb driver is simply not active at this stage and win does not use the plop usb driver -> no conflict

[bomz]

"conflict" may course absolutely different program not only the same driver-driver.

boot plpbt.rom - usb - grub - acronis.ISO - OK
boot plpbt.rom - usb - grub - plpbt.bin - reset

[Elmar]

"conflict" may course absolutely different program not only the same driver-driver.

yes, but i tried to explain you the details of this current situation.

[bomz]

OK.
plpbt.rom - Usb - grldr - OK
plpbt.rom - Usb - grldr - dos.ima - OK
plpbt.rom - Usb - grldr - winxpboot.ima - reset

[Elmar]

plpbt.rom - Usb - grldr - OK
plpbt.rom - Usb - grldr - dos.ima - OK
plpbt.rom - Usb - grldr - winxpboot.ima - reset

what do you want to tell us?

[bomz]

I hope that plpbt.rom in future would be better and better , and allow boot winpe from usb

[Elmar]

i dont know what winpe you are using, but bartpe for usb works

[bomz]

I use unknown for you live cd from vasalex and micro xp. but I can't boot winxpbootdiskette and xp from HD.
http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2336156
here pictures. I add my video and audio drivers and soft. This live cd made for easy add drivers and soft


how you boot your bartpe? ultraiso to usb?

[Elmar]

how you boot your bartpe? ultraiso to usb?

i only tried it to see if bart pe from usb does or does not work from usb with my boot manager. it worked. thats long time ago. i did nothing special, see the bart pe for usb instructions how to install it. i cannot do that for you. btw. i am no windows user, for me it doesn't matter if windows boots from usb or not. please don't pain me with windows questions.

[bomz]

may be deal in my bios

[bomz]

i am no windows user, for me it doesn't matter if windows boots from usb or not. please don't pain me with windows questions.

I change grub mbr on USB flash to syslinux (syslinux -ma P: + syslinux.cfg + memdisk + xpbootfloppy.ima) and boot OK. this boot diskette don't boot windows, but this is progress

[bomz]

The deal is - I use old version of grub 4.4, because I was sure that it work, and were is very many new version of grub and I have no time to check it. now I use the very last and ntldr boot. unexpected error occurs but boot

[bomz]

Windows 47 mb file copies USB 2.0          - 2 sec
Windows 47 mb file force USB 1.1 HiSpeed copies    - 50 sec
plpbt.rom GRUB4DOS copy to memory 47 mb file NO      - 35 sec
plpbt.rom GRUB4DOS copy to memory 47 mb file USB mode2   - 45 sec
plpbt.rom GRUB4DOS copy to memory 47 mb file USB mode1   - 60 sec

11 and 8 version PLoP
There is no USB 2.0 or GRUB problem (change to bcwd or syslinux) or Transdent flash problem???

[Elmar]

please, first search an answer in the web and when you find nothing then ask. i am tired to answer always the same questions. ex. why the usb driver does not use the full power of usb 2 speed. search in the forum to get an answer.

btw. your table row 2: usb 1.1 has no hispeed. only low and full speed.

EDIT: i think your posting is about speed. like ever you didn't write a clear question or statement

[Elmar]

another forum: http://reboot.pro/14355/page__view__findpost__p__127223

[bomz]

http://reboot.pro/14355/ just read

Waiting for new version. And what about CD problem in last 12 PLOP version?  I talk above

[Elmar]

Waiting for new version. And what about CD problem in last 12 PLOP version?  I talk above

cd problem? what do you mean?

[bomz]

As Italk above, at the very beginning I flash to Intel Chip last plpbt-5.0.12 version of PLoP. But when I try it I found that it impossible to boot any CD disk. I reflash Intel with plpbt-5.0.11-2 and all is OK. When I try 12 version booting it with GRUB from HD the same result.

IDE CD-DVD

Field   Value
Optical Drive Properties   
Device Description   Optiarc DVD RW AD-5200A
Serial Number   Ll388MEacZMU
Firmware Revision   1.09
Firmware Date   05.11.2008
Buffer Size   2 MB
Manufacturer   Optiarc
Device Type   DVD+RW/DVD-RW
Interface   ATAPI
Region Code   1
Remaining User Changes   4
Remaining Vendor Changes   4
   
Writing Speeds   
DVD+R9 Dual Layer   8x
DVD+R   20x
DVD+RW   8x
DVD-R9 Dual Layer   12x
DVD-R   20x
DVD-RW   6x
CD-R   48x
CD-RW   32x
   
Reading Speeds   
DVD-ROM   16x
CD-ROM   48x
   
Supported Disk Types   
BD-ROM   Not Supported
BD-R   Not Supported
BD-RE   Not Supported
HD DVD-ROM   Not Supported
HD DVD-R   Not Supported
HD DVD-RW   Not Supported
DVD-ROM   Read
DVD+R9 Dual Layer   Read + Write
DVD+R   Read + Write
DVD+RW   Read + Write
DVD-R9 Dual Layer   Read + Write
DVD-R   Read + Write
DVD-RW   Read + Write
DVD-RAM   Not Supported
CD-ROM   Read
CD-R   Read + Write
CD-RW   Read + Write
   
Optical Drive Features   
Buffer Underrun Protection   Supported
C2 Error Pointers   Supported
CD+G   Not Supported
CD-Text   Supported
Hybrid Disc   Not Supported
JustLink   Supported
LabelFlash   Not Supported
Layer-Jump Recording   Supported
LightScribe   Not Supported
Mount Rainier   Not Supported
SMART   Not Supported
CSS   Supported
CPRM   Supported
AACS   Not Supported
VCPS   Not Supported
BD CPS   Not Supported
   
Device Manufacturer   
Company Name   Sony NEC Optiarc Inc.
Product Information   http://www.sonynec-optiarc.com/products/index.html
Firmware Download   http://www.sonynec-optiarc.com

[Elmar]

i don't know. the cd driver is the same in both versions

[bomz]

Trying 5.0.13 - CD - OK.
Now plop don't show Acronis Secure Zone. It's commonly good because it can't boot it and I always can't understand which partition is what.
It's test I wait for stable to flash it in Intel.
Hope USB 2.0 full speed

[bomz]

New flashrom version 0.9.4 27/07/2011 allow flash Intel 100M under DOS. It's much easy

http://www.rom.by/forum/Universalnaja_utilita_dlja_chtenija_zapisi_flash-chipov_-

[bomz]

flashrom

[bomz]

little problem with Transdent flash. In most cases of dividing it to so some partition or two to flash devices PLoP see only the first. I decide this with BooIt -put it to very first partition (device) and than BootIt see all others, but what rule to make HD Flash to PLoP work with it correctly?

*correctly - after choose USB in PLoP menu, PLoP reboot and show Flash like HD disk with all it partitons

[bomz]

sory - strange but the difference was in MBR I use, if I use NTLDR MBR - after booting some program don't see HD, if I use GRUB MBR all is OK.

[bomz]

May be it belong only to TRANSCEND - after PLoP, to boot second disk on one flash device OR to boot some partitions on same flash device, put at first partition(disk) BootIt . It has his own USB drive

[bomz]

reprogramming TRANSCEND controller to HD (flash not like flash but like HD) PLoP now work fully correct


boot only first partiton second and third I boot with smart boot manager from first. MBR NT 5.0

[Utility]

I use unknown for you live cd from vasalex and micro xp. but I can't boot winxpbootdiskette and xp from HD.
http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2336156
here pictures. I add my video and audio drivers and soft. This live cd made for easy add drivers and soft


how you boot your bartpe? ultraiso to usb?