plop not working in windows 7

fhedman · February 18, 2010, 21:39:10 PM

hello how are you doing if anyone could give me some help id really appreciate it i downloaded plop version .7 unzipped and used the readme instructions at the end of this text for a hard disk installation i followed them to a tee i first started the plpgenbtldr and it told me my file was fragmented so i got contig and defragged the file followed the rest of the directions restarted and it just boots to windows everytime no boot menu did i miss something somewhere ialso downloaded plop .8 and burned the larger of the two isos to disk using power iso and restarted nothing again where am i going wrong anyway any help would be appreciated and thanks for taking the time to read!!!!!
create a directory like c:\plop or whatever you want
2) copy plpgenbtldr.exe and plpbt.bin to c:\plop
3) start "plpgenbtldr"
this program will search the file "plpbt.bin" in the current directory.
plpgenbtldr generates the file "plpbtldr.bin".
if all is ok, then add the boot manager to the boot menu. see below.
problems:
plpbt.bin must not be fragmented. if plpbt.bin is fragmented, then download
'contig' from microsoft.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897428.aspx
use 'contig plpbt.bin' to defrag plpbt.bin.
4) Adding to the boot menu
4.1) Windows XP
add the line below to your c:\boot.ini
c:\plop\plpbtldr.bin="PLoP Boot Manager"
4.2) Windows VISTA
run notepad as administrator
create a file c:\boot.ini and add the following lines
[boot loader]
[operating systems]
c:\plop\plpbtldr.bin="PLoP Boot Manager"
Now you should be able to start the PLoP Boot Manager from your Windows
boot menu.

Elmar · February 18, 2010, 21:43:27 PM

hi,
post your boot.ini
what windows are you using?

regards
elmar

fhedman · February 18, 2010, 21:45:23 PM

heres my boot.ini im using windows 7
[boot loader]
[operating systems]
c:\plop\plpbtldr.bin="PLoP Boot Manager"

Elmar · February 18, 2010, 21:53:45 PM

sorry, i didn't read the title

it looks like the vista boot.ini way does not work with win7. i didn't try it.
you can use bcedit to add the boot manager.

regards
elmar

fhedman · February 18, 2010, 22:19:13 PM

thank
you ill give it a try

fhedman · February 19, 2010, 11:49:58 AM

well i cant get it to work thanks anyway

xul · February 25, 2010, 13:51:07 PM

Mit Easy BCD kann man PLoP unter Win7 einrichten. Dabei wird NeoGrub vorgeschaltet, sodass das starten von PLoP wie von CD wirkt und man keine Einstellungen speichern kann. Aber es geht

Man benÃ¶tigt die Beta aus diesem Thread, unter "External Devices" ist dann "Install PLoP"
http://neosmart.net/forums/showthread.php?t=642

Es wird Dies Angelegt:
Entry #2
Name: EasyBCD BIOS Extender
BCD ID: {8b336f6e-0547-11df-bcdd-98cdccf4e332}
Drive: C:\
Bootloader Path: \NST\AutoNeoGrub0.mbr

Im Ordner NST befindet sich dann noch plpbt.iso

Vielleicht kann jemand rausbekommen wie man NeoGrub Ã¼berflÃ¼ssig macht und PLoP richtig "installiert"

Elmar · February 25, 2010, 20:37:59 PM

hi,
i have now a solution for win7.
we have to use the old vista method and we have to give the system partition a drive letter to copy the plop files on it.

use the "disk management" tool to give the system partition a drive letter. copy the plop files to the system partition to the directory "\plop". run plpgenbtldr on the system partition

open a command prompt as administrator.
use bcdedit to create the boot menu entry

Code Select


bcdedit /create /d "PLoP Boot Manager" /application bootsector

this prints a long number with { }
this long number is called "id"
replace the "id" with your number in the following commands

Code Select



bcdedit /set {id} device boot
bcdedit /set {id} path \plop\plpbtldr.bin
bcdedit /displayorder {id} /addlast

best regards
elmar

xul · February 26, 2010, 16:33:06 PM

Tested, works great.

Thanks Elmar

fhedman · February 28, 2010, 21:09:25 PM

Hey thanks alot Elmar tried this out and it worked great i appreciate it

phxrisin · September 30, 2010, 04:43:58 AM

Hi Elmar

Thanks for the guideline, installation for Win 7 worked great.
However, since I have fixed my USB booting issue through BIOS (read from external drive had been disabled), I no longer need the prompt at startup.
How can I go about removing Plop? (through bcdedit somehow I presume?)

Elmar · September 30, 2010, 14:59:26 PM

hi,

Quote from: phxrisin on September 30, 2010, 04:43:58 AM
Hi Elmar

Thanks for the guideline, installation for Win 7 worked great.
However, since I have fixed my USB booting issue through BIOS (read from external drive had been disabled), I no longer need the prompt at startup.
How can I go about removing Plop? (through bcdedit somehow I presume?)

open a command prompt as administrator
run "bcdedit /v" to list all entries
run "bcdedit /delete {id}" to remove the entry. {id} is the number with { } beside the listed entry.

regards
elmar

phxrisin · October 01, 2010, 15:19:38 PM

Quote from: Elmar on September 30, 2010, 14:59:26 PM
hi,

Quote from: phxrisin on September 30, 2010, 04:43:58 AM
Hi Elmar

Thanks for the guideline, installation for Win 7 worked great.
However, since I have fixed my USB booting issue through BIOS (read from external drive had been disabled), I no longer need the prompt at startup.
How can I go about removing Plop? (through bcdedit somehow I presume?)

open a command prompt as administrator
run "bcdedit /v" to list all entries
run "bcdedit /delete {id}" to remove the entry. {id} is the number with { } beside the listed entry.

regards
elmar

Worked like a charm, thanks!

ADIEL244 · December 01, 2010, 21:14:25 PM

good day!
I do not speak English, translation google ..

I'm trying without success, to install in Windows 7 plot, error message:
C: \> bcdedit / set {0b472e7c-16e7-11df-a5bb-bc01383eb6be} c: \ plop / plpbtldr.bin
Unrecognized data type of the item or does not apply to
the specified entry.
Run "bcdedit /?" to get help from the command line.
Not found the item.

I also tried:

C: \> plop / bcdedit / set {0b472e7c-16e7-11df-a5bb-bc01383eb6be} c: \ plop / plpbtldr.bin
Unrecognized data type of the item or does not apply to
the specified entry.
Run "bcdedit /?" to get help from the command line.
Not found the item.

I run the console in administrator mode ...
I have Windows 7 in Spanish, hp dv6000 laptop, 3gb ram, processor AMD Turion 64X2 1.9. 150 GB hard drive

I thank the help.

Quote from: Elmar on February 25, 2010, 20:37:59 PM
hi,
i have now a solution for win7.
we have to use the old vista method and we have to give the system partition a drive letter to copy the plop files on it.

use the "disk management" tool to give the system partition a drive letter. copy the plop files to the system partition to the directory "\plop". run plpgenbtldr on the system partition

open a command prompt as administrator.
use bcdedit to create the boot menu entry
Code Select Expand
bcdedit /create /d "PLoP Boot Manager" /application bootsector

this prints a long number with { }
this long number is called "id"
replace the "id" with your number in the following commands
Code Select Expand
bcdedit /set {id} device boot bcdedit /set {id} path \plop\plpbtldr.bin bcdedit /displayorder {id} /addlast

best regards
elmar