I am trying to boot to a USB thumb drive on MACs.
I created boot cd from blpbt.iso and it boots to the the boot manager menu on my imac great! I used the USB option and my OS started right up. Perfect!
However, I am having trouble with my new intel i5 macbook pro. I can boot from cd to the boot manager, however when i choose USB it does not detect my USB drive.
Any advice?
Thanks!
hi,
are you able to start a linux on your macbook? can you post the output of "lspci"?
regards
elmar
I am not sure how to run lspci however I was able to get the following information from "about this mac | more info" Please let me know if this answers your question. If it does not, I know I can hold down command+s as the mac boots to get to a linix root prompt. I am just not sure if lspci is available, but i can look into it. Thank you very much for you help with this.
USB High-Speed Bus:
Host Controller Location: Built-in USB
Host Controller Driver: AppleUSBEHCI
PCI Device ID: 0x3b34
PCI Revision ID: 0x0006
PCI Vendor ID: 0x8086
Bus Number: 0xfd
Hub:
Product ID: 0x2514
Vendor ID: 0x0424 (SMSC)
Version: 0.03
Speed: Up to 480 Mb/sec
Location ID: 0xfd100000
Current Available (mA): 500
Current Required (mA): 2
I booted to Ubuntu and rand lspci,
Here are the results.
Does this help? Thanks Again!
To run a command as administrator (user "root"), use "sudo <command>".
See "man sudo_root" for details.
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor DRAM Controller (rev 12)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor PCI Express x16 Root Port (rev 12)
00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB Universal Host Controller (rev 06)
00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller (rev 06)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 06)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev 06)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 2 (rev 06)
00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 3 (rev 06)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 4 (rev 06)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB Universal Host Controller (rev 06)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller (rev 06)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev a6)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 5 Series Chipset LPC Interface Controller (rev 06)
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset 4 port SATA IDE Controller (rev 06)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset SMBus Controller (rev 06)
00:1f.6 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Thermal Subsystem (rev 06)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 0a29 (rev a2)
01:00.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1)
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5764M Gigabit Ethernet PCIe (rev 10)
03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Device 4353 (rev 01)
04:00.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Agere Systems FW643 PCI Express1394b Controller (PHY/Link) (rev 08)
ff:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QuickPath Architecture Generic Non-core Registers (rev 02)
ff:00.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QuickPath Architecture System Address Decoder (rev 02)
ff:02.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QPI Link 0 (rev 02)
ff:02.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QPI Physical 0 (rev 02)
ff:02.2 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Reserved (rev 02)
ff:02.3 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Reserved (rev 02)
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
ok, and now the command "lsusb -v" when the usb drive is connected
bEndpointAddress 0x04 EP 4 OUT
bmAttributes 2
Transfer Type Bulk
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0020 1x 32 bytes
bInterval 1
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 3
bAlternateSetting 0
bNumEndpoints 0
bInterfaceClass 254 Application Specific Interface
bInterfaceSubClass 1 Device Firmware Update
bInterfaceProtocol 1
iInterface 0
Device Firmware Upgrade Interface Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 33
bmAttributes 7
Will Not Detach
Manifestation Tolerant
Upload Supported
Download Supported
wDetachTimeout 5000 milliseconds
wTransferSize 64 bytes
can't get device qualifier: Operation not permitted
can't get debug descriptor: Operation not permitted
cannot read device status, Operation not permitted (1)
Bus 001 Device 007: ID 05ac:820b Apple, Inc.
Device Descriptor:
bLength 18
bDescriptorType 1
bcdUSB 2.00
bDeviceClass 0 (Defined at Interface level)
bDeviceSubClass 0
bDeviceProtocol 0
bMaxPacketSize0 8
idVendor 0x05ac Apple, Inc.
idProduct 0x820b
bcdDevice 1.00
iManufacturer 0
iProduct 0
iSerial 0
bNumConfigurations 1
Configuration Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 2
wTotalLength 34
bNumInterfaces 1
bConfigurationValue 1
iConfiguration 0
bmAttributes 0xe0
Self Powered
Remote Wakeup
MaxPower 0mA
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 0
bAlternateSetting 0
bNumEndpoints 1
bInterfaceClass 3 Human Interface Device
bInterfaceSubClass 1 Boot Interface Subclass
bInterfaceProtocol 2 Mouse
iInterface 0
HID Device Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 33
bcdHID 1.11
bCountryCode 0 Not supported
bNumDescriptors 1
bDescriptorType 34 Report
wDescriptorLength 52
Report Descriptors:
** UNAVAILABLE **
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN
bmAttributes 3
Transfer Type Interrupt
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0004 1x 4 bytes
bInterval 10
can't get device qualifier: Operation not permitted
can't get debug descriptor: Operation not permitted
cannot read device status, Operation not permitted (1)
Bus 001 Device 006: ID 05ac:820a Apple, Inc.
Device Descriptor:
bLength 18
bDescriptorType 1
bcdUSB 2.00
bDeviceClass 0 (Defined at Interface level)
bDeviceSubClass 0
bDeviceProtocol 0
bMaxPacketSize0 8
idVendor 0x05ac Apple, Inc.
idProduct 0x820a
bcdDevice 1.00
iManufacturer 0
iProduct 0
iSerial 0
bNumConfigurations 1
Configuration Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 2
wTotalLength 34
bNumInterfaces 1
bConfigurationValue 1
iConfiguration 0
bmAttributes 0xe0
Self Powered
Remote Wakeup
MaxPower 0mA
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 0
bAlternateSetting 0
bNumEndpoints 1
bInterfaceClass 3 Human Interface Device
bInterfaceSubClass 1 Boot Interface Subclass
bInterfaceProtocol 1 Keyboard
iInterface 0
HID Device Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 33
bcdHID 1.11
bCountryCode 0 Not supported
bNumDescriptors 1
bDescriptorType 34 Report
wDescriptorLength 56
Report Descriptors:
** UNAVAILABLE **
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN
bmAttributes 3
Transfer Type Interrupt
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0008 1x 8 bytes
bInterval 10
can't get device qualifier: Operation not permitted
can't get debug descriptor: Operation not permitted
cannot read device status, Operation not permitted (1)
Bus 001 Device 005: ID 05ac:8403 Apple, Inc.
Device Descriptor:
bLength 18
bDescriptorType 1
bcdUSB 2.00
bDeviceClass 0 (Defined at Interface level)
bDeviceSubClass 0
bDeviceProtocol 0
bMaxPacketSize0 64
idVendor 0x05ac Apple, Inc.
idProduct 0x8403
bcdDevice 98.33
iManufacturer 3
iProduct 4
iSerial 2
bNumConfigurations 1
Configuration Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 2
wTotalLength 32
bNumInterfaces 1
bConfigurationValue 1
iConfiguration 0
bmAttributes 0xa0
(Bus Powered)
Remote Wakeup
MaxPower 500mA
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 0
bAlternateSetting 0
bNumEndpoints 2
bInterfaceClass 8 Mass Storage
bInterfaceSubClass 6 SCSI
bInterfaceProtocol 80 Bulk (Zip)
iInterface 0
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN
bmAttributes 2
Transfer Type Bulk
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes
bInterval 0
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x02 EP 2 OUT
bmAttributes 2
Transfer Type Bulk
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes
bInterval 0
can't get device qualifier: Operation not permitted
can't get debug descriptor: Operation not permitted
cannot read device status, Operation not permitted (1)
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 05ac:0236 Apple, Inc.
Device Descriptor:
bLength 18
bDescriptorType 1
bcdUSB 2.00
bDeviceClass 0 (Defined at Interface level)
bDeviceSubClass 0
bDeviceProtocol 0
bMaxPacketSize0 8
idVendor 0x05ac Apple, Inc.
idProduct 0x0236
bcdDevice 0.90
iManufacturer 1
iProduct 2
iSerial 0
bNumConfigurations 1
Configuration Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 2
wTotalLength 84
bNumInterfaces 3
bConfigurationValue 1
iConfiguration 0
bmAttributes 0xa0
(Bus Powered)
Remote Wakeup
MaxPower 40mA
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 0
bAlternateSetting 0
bNumEndpoints 1
bInterfaceClass 3 Human Interface Device
bInterfaceSubClass 1 Boot Interface Subclass
bInterfaceProtocol 1 Keyboard
iInterface 3
HID Device Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 33
bcdHID 1.11
bCountryCode 33 US
bNumDescriptors 1
bDescriptorType 34 Report
wDescriptorLength 156
Report Descriptors:
** UNAVAILABLE **
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x83 EP 3 IN
bmAttributes 3
Transfer Type Interrupt
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x000a 1x 10 bytes
bInterval 8
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 1
bAlternateSetting 0
bNumEndpoints 1
bInterfaceClass 3 Human Interface Device
bInterfaceSubClass 0 No Subclass
bInterfaceProtocol 0 None
iInterface 4
HID Device Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 33
bcdHID 1.11
bCountryCode 0 Not supported
bNumDescriptors 1
bDescriptorType 34 Report
wDescriptorLength 27
Report Descriptors:
** UNAVAILABLE **
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN
bmAttributes 3
Transfer Type Interrupt
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0040 1x 64 bytes
bInterval 2
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 2
bAlternateSetting 0
bNumEndpoints 1
bInterfaceClass 3 Human Interface Device
bInterfaceSubClass 1 Boot Interface Subclass
bInterfaceProtocol 2 Mouse
iInterface 4
HID Device Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 33
bcdHID 1.11
bCountryCode 0 Not supported
bNumDescriptors 1
bDescriptorType 34 Report
wDescriptorLength 52
Report Descriptors:
** UNAVAILABLE **
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x84 EP 4 IN
bmAttributes 3
Transfer Type Interrupt
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0008 1x 8 bytes
bInterval 8
can't get device qualifier: Operation not permitted
can't get debug descriptor: Operation not permitted
cannot read device status, Operation not permitted (1)
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0a5c:4500 Broadcom Corp. BCM2046B1 USB 2.0 Hub (part of BCM2046 Bluetooth)
Device Descriptor:
bLength 18
bDescriptorType 1
bcdUSB 2.00
bDeviceClass 9 Hub
bDeviceSubClass 0 Unused
bDeviceProtocol 0 Full speed (or root) hub
bMaxPacketSize0 8
idVendor 0x0a5c Broadcom Corp.
idProduct 0x4500 BCM2046B1 USB 2.0 Hub (part of BCM2046 Bluetooth)
bcdDevice 1.00
iManufacturer 1
iProduct 2
iSerial 0
bNumConfigurations 1
Configuration Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 2
wTotalLength 25
bNumInterfaces 1
bConfigurationValue 1
iConfiguration 0
bmAttributes 0xe0
Self Powered
Remote Wakeup
MaxPower 94mA
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 0
bAlternateSetting 0
bNumEndpoints 1
bInterfaceClass 9 Hub
bInterfaceSubClass 0 Unused
bInterfaceProtocol 0 Full speed (or root) hub
iInterface 0
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN
bmAttributes 3
Transfer Type Interrupt
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0001 1x 1 bytes
bInterval 255
can't get hub descriptor: Operation not permitted
can't get device qualifier: Operation not permitted
can't get debug descriptor: Operation not permitted
cannot read device status, Operation not permitted (1)
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0424:2514 Standard Microsystems Corp.
Device Descriptor:
bLength 18
bDescriptorType 1
bcdUSB 2.00
bDeviceClass 9 Hub
bDeviceSubClass 0 Unused
bDeviceProtocol 2 TT per port
bMaxPacketSize0 64
idVendor 0x0424 Standard Microsystems Corp.
idProduct 0x2514
bcdDevice 0.03
iManufacturer 0
iProduct 0
iSerial 0
bNumConfigurations 1
Configuration Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 2
wTotalLength 41
bNumInterfaces 1
bConfigurationValue 1
iConfiguration 0
bmAttributes 0xe0
Self Powered
Remote Wakeup
MaxPower 2mA
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 0
bAlternateSetting 0
bNumEndpoints 1
bInterfaceClass 9 Hub
bInterfaceSubClass 0 Unused
bInterfaceProtocol 1 Single TT
iInterface 0
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN
bmAttributes 3
Transfer Type Interrupt
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0001 1x 1 bytes
bInterval 12
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 0
bAlternateSetting 1
bNumEndpoints 1
bInterfaceClass 9 Hub
bInterfaceSubClass 0 Unused
bInterfaceProtocol 2 TT per port
iInterface 0
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN
bmAttributes 3
Transfer Type Interrupt
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0001 1x 1 bytes
bInterval 12
can't get hub descriptor: Operation not permitted
can't get device qualifier: Operation not permitted
can't get debug descriptor: Operation not permitted
cannot read device status, Operation not permitted (1)
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Device Descriptor:
bLength 18
bDescriptorType 1
bcdUSB 2.00
bDeviceClass 9 Hub
bDeviceSubClass 0 Unused
bDeviceProtocol 0 Full speed (or root) hub
bMaxPacketSize0 64
idVendor 0x1d6b Linux Foundation
idProduct 0x0002 2.0 root hub
bcdDevice 2.06
iManufacturer 3
iProduct 2
iSerial 1
bNumConfigurations 1
Configuration Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 2
wTotalLength 25
bNumInterfaces 1
bConfigurationValue 1
iConfiguration 0
bmAttributes 0xe0
Self Powered
Remote Wakeup
MaxPower 0mA
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 0
bAlternateSetting 0
bNumEndpoints 1
bInterfaceClass 9 Hub
bInterfaceSubClass 0 Unused
bInterfaceProtocol 0 Full speed (or root) hub
iInterface 0
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN
bmAttributes 3
Transfer Type Interrupt
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0004 1x 4 bytes
bInterval 12
can't get hub descriptor: Operation not permitted
can't get device qualifier: Operation not permitted
can't get debug descriptor: Operation not permitted
cannot read device status, Operation not permitted (1)
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
and now with the same devices "lsusb -t"
To run a command as administrator (user "root"), use "sudo <command>".
See "man sudo_root" for details.
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ lsusb -t
2-1.1:1.2: No such file or directory
1-1.1.3:1.0: No such file or directory
1-1.1.3:1.1: No such file or directory
1-1.1.3:1.2: No such file or directory
1-1.1.3:1.3: No such file or directory
/: Bus 02.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=ehci_hcd/8p, 480M
|__ Port 1: Dev 2, If 0, Class=hub, Driver=hub/3p, 480M
|__ Port 1: Dev 3, If 0, Class='bInterfaceClass 0x0e not yet handled', Driver=uvcvideo, 480M
|__ Port 1: Dev 3, If 1, Class='bInterfaceClass 0x0e not yet handled', Driver=uvcvideo, 480M
|__ Port 1: Dev 3, If 2, Class=vend., Driver=, 480M
|__ Port 2: Dev 4, If 0, Class=HID, Driver=usbhid, 1.5M
/: Bus 01.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=ehci_hcd/6p, 480M
|__ Port 1: Dev 2, If 0, Class=hub, Driver=hub/4p, 480M
|__ Port 1: Dev 3, If 0, Class=hub, Driver=hub/3p, 12M
|__ Port 1: Dev 7, If 0, Class=HID, Driver=usbhid, 12M
|__ Port 2: Dev 8, If 0, Class=HID, Driver=usbhid, 12M
|__ Port 3: Dev 9, If 0, Class=vend., Driver=, 12M
|__ Port 3: Dev 9, If 1, Class='bInterfaceClass 0xe0 not yet handled', Driver=, 12M
|__ Port 3: Dev 9, If 2, Class=vend., Driver=, 12M
|__ Port 3: Dev 9, If 3, Class=app., Driver=, 12M
|__ Port 2: Dev 4, If 0, Class=HID, Driver=usbhid, 12M
|__ Port 2: Dev 4, If 1, Class=HID, Driver=usbhid, 12M
|__ Port 2: Dev 4, If 2, Class=HID, Driver=bcm5974, 12M
|__ Port 3: Dev 5, If 0, Class=stor., Driver=usb-storage, 480M
|__ Port 4: Dev 6, If 0, Class=stor., Driver=usb-storage, 480M
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
what do you see in the boot manager window when you press ctrl-u
Control U seems to give me the same results as when I choose USB in the menu.
Here is the output:
Loading EHCI Driver
Searching on hosts
Host 1
Port 1: NO MASS STORAGE DEVICE
Host 2
Port 1: No mass storage device
Driver Removed
Loading UHCI Driver
Searching on hosts
Host 1
Port 1: NO MASS STORAGE DEVICE
Host 2
Host 3
Host 4
Port 1: NO MASS STORAGE DEVICE
Host 5
Host 6
Host 7
*** Boot Error ***
NO BOOT DEVICE FOUND, PLEASE RETRY IT
it looks like that you macbook has an internal usb hub connected to the usb controller. usb hubs are not supported, thats the reason why the thumb drive isn't detected.
Thanks ok. If you ever think of a solution please let me know.
I was hoping it may be possible as the folks that made this boot cd claim it works on macbook.
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/category/usb-boot-cds/
Scroll down and look at SLAX boot CD.
I can boot to the cd and get a linix prompt but I dont know linix enough to tell it to boot to usb after that or verify that it did in fact see my drive.
Also FYI, The Plop MB does not seem to detect the usb either on the newest imacs. Only the older first gen intel imac (the white ones)
hi,
i don't know if it works on your mac book, but please try http://download.plop.at/tmp/plpbt.bin
please try it on the imac too.
regards
elmar
Thanks for remembering me. :) I would still love to see this work on mac and would be happy to test. Is it possible for you to convert the bin to iso for me? I don't have the software handy to burn the bin on my mac. Thanks!
Elmar,
I'm have the same issue using a new MacBook Pro (i5/i7 chipset). I tried the new plpbt.bin you posted, and it could not find the bootable USB key either. If there's something else you want me to check/test/etc, let me know.
For M, I just posted the ISO I just made here:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/uli4mtjechi/plpbtmycd.iso
Test Results:
Older 24" Intel core2 duo 2.4 iMac
Plop Boot Manager 5.0.10 successfully detected my bootable usb drive wonderfully, however obi1's iso with your latest bin appears to be Plop Boot Manager 5.0.11-test3 which could not detect the drive and froze the app.
15" Intel i5 MacBook Pro
5.0.10 - Could not detect USB drive | 5.0.11-test3 - Could not detect USB Drive.
New 27" 2010 Intel 3.06GHz Intel Core 2 Duo iMac
5.0.10 - Could not detect USB device over USB2, however USB 1 setting did detect the device but could not successfully boot the OS | 5.0.11-test3 - I did not have time to test
I truly appreciate your effort and hard work. Your Boot manager is a wonderful solution.
Please keep is Mac users on your radar. If you have anything to test please post and we will be happy to test and post results.
Keep up the excellent work!
-M
Quote from: M on July 09, 2010, 22:38:57 PM
however obi1's iso with your latest bin appears to be Plop Boot Manager 5.0.11-test3 which could not detect the drive and froze the app.
oh noooo, i as afraid that this is happening
only to be sure, try this for a test http://download.plop.at/tmp/plpbt.iso
i think it should hang at startup, but i have to be sure.
now i have a problem. what should i do. the freeze is because of the new pcmcia code. should i create a pc (including pcmcia) and a mac version or should i create pc/mac and pcmcia version.
hmm. i wish to have all in one, but it seems that is not possible with the size limit that i have.
Please repost link. File Not Found. I would be happy to test again.
the link works
but now i attached the file
FYI,
I downloaded the iso from the link above, and it's still not detecting the usb drive on my i7 MacBook Pro. If there's anything else to test, let me (us) know.
Quote from: Obi1 on July 13, 2010, 03:02:25 AM
FYI,
I downloaded the iso from the link above, and it's still not detecting the usb drive on my i7 MacBook Pro. If there's anything else to test, let me (us) know.
yes i know. i don't think that the 5.0.x series will support the macbook pro.
@M
your post has been deleted because of a bad forum update.
did you mean test3 or pcmcia-test?
Quote from: Elmar on July 09, 2010, 22:52:49 PM
now i have a problem. what should i do. the freeze is because of the new pcmcia code. should i create a pc (including pcmcia) and a mac version or should i create pc/mac and pcmcia version.
USB boot on Mac's only boots "Mac OSX" or "REFIT" USB devices:
To boot PC created USB boot devices with some kind of Linux Distro, you have to install "Refit" to the internal Mac OSX harddisk, reboot and the USB devices will popup in the RefiT boot menu "sometimes needs a extra reboot to showup the USB device within Refit".
The other way is to put refit onto the USB device, and press Option key from the apple boot menu. It will boot Refit, and refit will boot grub. But you really need to alter the partition/volume layout of the USB device. This because refit needs a HFS partition with his boot files. Maybe it even needs GPT instead of MBR partition layout but I got it to work but a long time ago. But booting a GPT on a normal PC is impossible, except if you install Chameleon bootloader.
Burn a CD with Refit, boot it and look if it will find your bootable USB device.
Quote from: Elmar on July 09, 2010, 22:52:49 PM
now i have a problem. what should i do. the freeze is because of the new pcmcia code. should i create a pc (including pcmcia) and a mac version or should i create pc/mac and pcmcia version.
i already made my choice, one version for pc (without pcmcia) and mac and a second version for pcmcia
Quote from: walterav on July 17, 2010, 11:24:08 AM
To boot PC created USB boot devices with some kind of Linux Distro, you have to install "Refit" to the internal Mac OSX harddisk, reboot and the USB devices will popup in the RefiT boot menu "sometimes needs a extra reboot to showup the USB device within Refit".
i know, people booting plop from cd and continue to boot linux from usb. no refit is needed.
Hi Elmar,
I am happy see you are still supporting your boot manager.
FYI, I continue to offer sad news for Mac Users:
I tested the new 5.0.11-rc1 today on my 15" Intel i5 MacBook Pro and it could not detect my bootable usb drive.
Do you have any plans to test your boot manager on MAC's?
What can we do to help? Write a letter to Steve to give you a discount on some Macbooks?
Help us Elmar. You are our only hope.
hi M,
it does not detect because the i5 macbook is using an internal hub.
regards
elmar
Hey! Interesting info... My black MacBook loads Plop from cd just fine, detects my USB Key, but then hangs on "Loading Boot Sector". Any updates to fix this? I am using 5.0.11 RC1, if that helps.
Quote from: sircharlo on September 25, 2010, 16:48:42 PM
Hey! Interesting info... My black MacBook loads Plop from cd just fine, detects my USB Key, but then hangs on "Loading Boot Sector". Any updates to fix this? I am using 5.0.11 RC1, if that helps.
can you try 5.0.10 too, only to be sure that it doesn't work with both versions
Quote from: Elmar on September 25, 2010, 17:11:03 PM
Quote from: sircharlo on September 25, 2010, 16:48:42 PM
Hey! Interesting info... My black MacBook loads Plop from cd just fine, detects my USB Key, but then hangs on "Loading Boot Sector". Any updates to fix this? I am using 5.0.11 RC1, if that helps.
can you try 5.0.10 too, only to be sure that it doesn't work with both versions
Holy Crap! It worked!
Upon selection of the USB option, it proceeds to show my USB key's Grub2 menu.
YAY!!!
However, my keyboard is now unresponsive. I cannot use the arrow keys to select other boot options in my USB key's Grub 2 menu. After the default 10-second delay, Ubuntu (on the key) loads normally, and my keyboard is okay when I reach the Ubuntu login screen.
I would like to be able to use the keyboard on my Grub 2 menu however! On it I have an entry called "Utilities" that I created, which points to Grub4DOS on another partition (again on my USB key). This partition is filled with ISOs of useful distros and tools, like Parted Magic, Ophcrack, BitDefender AV,HBCD, and so-on.
If I cannot use the keyboard to access this entry and select it, all of my utilities will be useless on my Mac...
Do you have any idea how to re-enable the keyboard after Plop does its thing?
Anyhow, I want to thank you VERY MUCH for this great tool, which makes USB-booting from a Mac, very possible indeed :)
Quote from: sircharlo on September 25, 2010, 18:02:39 PM
Holy Crap! It worked!
so that means 5.0.10 works, but 5.0.11-rc1 not? :(
Quote from: sircharlo on September 25, 2010, 18:02:39 PM
However, my keyboard is now unresponsive. I cannot use the arrow keys to select other boot
this is because 5.0.x has no usb keyboard driver and it seems the keyboard is connected to the usb host
when you have time, i would like to get 5.0.11 working too on the mac.
regards
elmar
Yeah sure tell me what you need..
I can confirm that v5.0.10 will boot a MacbookPro5,2 USB flash drive into linux with Grub v1.97 (me thinks) on Ubuntu 10.10 amd64 alternate install CD. I get a trivial msdos failed to write to hd (0,0) (or close), then I get the LUKS/dm-crypt passphrase prompt. There is no Grub menu, however. I have booted the machine about 15 times since last night when I tried v5.0.10 after it failed a number of time with v.5.0.11. If I can be of assistance, please let me know.
It has been complex thinking about to using grub-efi to boot, but I understand the mac only has efi1.1, not uefi2.0, and it looses the nvidia hw accel, since that driver/module needs BIOS inputs. That's a big part of running native rather than in a VM.
I've also found PLoP helpful booting VMs...
Thanks for everything! :)
I can confirm following happens on White Intel MacBook:
5.0.11 recognize usb keys but freezes when try to boot from usb
5.0.10 recognize usb key, load grub but keybord is unresponsive. unable to to boot.
Now, is there a working older version of plop (5.0.5?), which i am able to boot with?
I am trying to load Meego and only image I have is USB, so plop is my only hope to do that.
Anyway, thank you for all the hard work and support you afford to us.
Update: The 5.0.10 is working. Finally :) The problem was probably in Meego. After grub loaded I hit the ENTER key only and it started to boot. But figured out, Meego is no way for MacBook. Maybe its driverrs are stripped into Atom platform only.
The Ubuntu USB image works fine. The best thing is, I can try new things easily with PLoP finally.
So I stick with 5.0.10 for now, until new version will works again.
Thank You Elmar for PLoP and keep up the good work.
Hello There,
I'm looking to start ubuntu or another Linux distro on my MacBook pro 5,5 cos I saw is possible but until now I'm able to boot into plop menu but when try to boot from USB it freeze.
I tryed ubuntu 10.4 and 10.10 with no luck, I created a bootable USB from windows xp, so please if someone can help me and suggest the right way to create the USB key even a link will be helpful.
At this link as you can see this guy managed to boot in
youtube video id E7vCvA8Um7M
Thanks
Nevermind it works!!
PLOP 5.0.10
UBUNTU 10.4 ISO
On Macbook Pro 5,5 unibody ;)
The problem was on Plop actually the 5.0.11 boot but get stuck on "loading bootloader.
Hooray! finally I'm online again with my MBP without HD :o
Cheers guys!
Hi Mac users ::),
I am new in the forum, have macbook pro 13" 7,1 (named as April 2010 production),
Readily installed Refit, and have 3 op.sys,
sda1 efi
sda2 mac osx 10.6.7 --> refit 0.14
sda3 ntfs win 7 --> bcd 2.0 (active)
sda4 ext4 ubuntu 10.04 --> grub 2
sda5 linux swap
so, I can easily start which op.sys I want,
but up to now, I was not able to boot from usb port :-\ (mostly linux distros)...
Mac can natively boot from guid partn. table even if it is usb, but not from mbr easily.
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I have tried using "plpbt-5.0.11-2" iso cd, no way it hangs whenever i choose usb :(
"plpbt-5.0.10" iso cd works like a charm;
with 5.0.10 cd I can boot from usb stick (linux...win7 vhd ... partbe xp...etc...)
whenever I use the sd card port of the mac, (or else boot from usb port via the
usb-sd card converter; 2-4-8-16-32 sd,sdhc,sdxc cards, ) then I have to use
shift key in order to force usb 1.1 for booting... that s ok!
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My problem is that; I dont want to carry the boot cd with me, the working
5.0.10 cd all the time, so I have
decided to install "plpgenbtldr-0.8" to hdd; c:\plop,
but it does not work like the cd version >:(
How can I do it?
tried copying the plpbt.bin from the cd (inside boot.img) and then
run plpgenbtldr, but gives error, I think version mismatch...
waters,
please try http://download.plop.at/tmp/plpbt.bin with a cd to see if it hangs too
regards
elmar
@elmar, thanx for the quick response,
when i boot from cd (to use usb boot support for mac) there s no problem.
ver. 5.0.10 20100420 CD just works fine for macbook pro :)
But I dont want to carry the "usb boot cd" with me all the time,
So, I wanted to install it to just like written in the "Plop Boot Manager v5.0"
section 7. Run from the Windows boot menu (2K, XP, VISTA and Win7)...
The downloaded file "plpgenbtldr-0.8.zip" copy to c:\plop.....etc... OK.
My win 7 bootloader;
Mac Leo 10.6.7
Windows 7(32bit)
Ubuntu 10.04(64 bit)
Plop Boot Manager --> the purpose is just to make usb boot enable for mac...
Now, this installed version is V5.0.11-2 20110112 :(
this installed one or the CD version of 5.0.11-2 do not work in modern macs;
hangs ....
How can I make my installed c:\plop to version 5.0.10 ?
now it is 5.0.11-2
(I not a programmer, but comp. tech. ; tried smt. like this;
extracted plpbt.bin from working 5.0.10 CD :o
Then run plpgenbtldr --> gave version mismatch error :-[ )
Should I try plpgenbtldr command with your new http://download.plop.at/tmp/plpbt.bin ?
i want to fix the problem with 5.0.11-2, so please try the test version. when its fixed, i can make a clean release and then you don't need the cd
I opened plpbt.iso from 5.0.11-2 version
replaced the plpbt.bin; inside iso
43 k 20110112 ----> 44k 20110410 (http://download.plop.at/tmp/plpbt.bin)
reconstructed iso, burnt cd with nero...
booted with this new cd, v5.0.12-test2
usb support OK...
sdcard port support, OK but with shift key(usb 1.1 force), otherwise hangs. :'(
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Then i tried to c:\ploptest
copied http://download.plop.at/tmp/plpbt.bin and plpgenbtldr.exe to this folder,
run plpgenbtldr generates the file plpbtldr.bin
OK.
bcdedit /create /d "Plop Boot Manager Test" /application bootsector
bcdedit /set {id} device partition=C:
bcdedit /set {id} path \ploptest\plpbtldr.bin
bcdedit /displayorder {id} /addlast
so, added a new line to bcd,
.....
.....
.....
Plop Boot Manager ---> v5.0.11-2 problematic on mac
Plop Boot Manager Test ---> v5.0.12-test2 OK ;D
Thank you Elmar ;)
Now my new aim is to permanently change the lines;
Harddisksda1 -->hide it!
Harddisksda2 -->Mac
Harddisksda3-->Win7
Harddisksda4-->Ubuntu
etc...
without hdd mbr installation...
ok, please try this http://download.plop.at/tmp/plpbt2.bin
does it still work?
Hi,
I didnt prepare a boot cd, but I did like this;
c:\plop v5.0.11-2
c:\ploptest v5.0.12-test2
c:\ploptest2 v5.0.12-test4
v5.0.12-test2;
boot from usb OK,
boot from sdcard slot, OK with shift key, but kb unresponsive...
v5.0.12-test4
boot from usb. NO; hangs...
boot from sdcard slot with shift key or not; NO; hangs...
even it can not boot from hdd (loop), hangs...
(from win 7 bcd boot I was choosing Plop ---> sda3 (win7) --->Plop... endless loop.
error:
ehci,uhci,ohci... loading...driver.
device...name of the usb brand.
loading boot sector... hang... stays this screen forever.
what char sequence do you see when you use this http://download.plop.at/tmp/plpbt3.bin
Hi,
c:\plptest3 ---> http://download.plop.at/tmp/plpbt3.bin
when I choose it, the last option in win7 bcd loader;
aAL_ white letters on the left top side of the black screen...
what do you see when it hangs
http://download.plop.at/tmp/plpbt4.bin
It is (http://download.plop.at/tmp/plpbt4.bin) --> V5.0.12-Test4
2 lines very quick that I can not read when starting,
then comes plop main screen,
T80x50, grid, left top corner writes "ALALALAL"
usb,sdcard,hdd, none of em boots,
hangs after...Loading boot sector.
when I chose usb or hdd from the menu, the first line ALALALAL
becomes full ALALALALALALALALAL..........Loading boot sector.....then hangs.
and now http://download.plop.at/tmp/plpbt5.bin
It is v.5.0.12-Test4
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hdd boot (cycle to bcd or grub 2) OK.
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usb boot OK. (2 lines quickly appear that I can not read, then comes the main plop window.)
then I choose usb ---> black screen writes:
"Booting from Local Disk,
Abc0LA " " "
SysLINUX 3.86 ebios 1994-2010
Abc0LA " " " "
then I think booting process starts;
AbcLA.........full of the same writing 2 pages long...
then comes Abc2LAbc1LAbc0L
Loading \boot\vmlinuz\ ----here the op sys should start , but
there is again Abc......writings nearly 2 pages...
then continuing the known linux process lines...
linux
cpu
bla.bla.....
the system opens OK.
I have tried with different distros,
Knoppix 6.4 , Mint 10, Slax 6.1.2, Centos 5.5, Ubuntu 10.10,
even when the standart option screen comes;
boot: (u should write here the kernel options, etc...)
but it is; boot:AbcAbcAbc......... :o
whatever just press enter.
then starts linux
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sdcard hangs without shift option.
with shift OK just like the normal usb, but kb stops.
ok, i think i got it now.
what about this http://download.plop.at/tmp/plpbt6.bin
dont care about debug chars
v5.0.12-Test4
T80x50
This time no graphical glitches or nonsense characters.
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hdd boot OK
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usb book OK, (very quick boot)
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sd card boot; without shift, NO
"Loading Ehci Drv.
Searching on hosts
Host1
Part6:Dev.connected" ---> hangs..
sd card boot; with shift OK, keyboard stops.
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additional info: shutdown option in main plop screen do not work in any version that I have tried...
thanks for the tests
Quote from: waters on April 13, 2011, 12:04:38 PM
additional info: shutdown option in main plop screen do not work in any version that I have tried...
the apm interrupt function is not supported by every bios.
best regards
elmar
waters, please try this nearly final version http://download.plop.at/tmp/plpbt-5.0.12.zip
Hi Elmar,
I stumbled onto your site when looking for a way to boot from my USB Ubuntu 10.04 64bit on my new Macbookpro i7. I downloaded the latest iso 5.0.12 and it doesn't work with this particular notebook. The disc loads and I see all the choices but when I select USB as the boot option it does not boot the OS. I tried your latest iso on a macbookpro 15" dual core and it worked so I'm sure both the iso and the usb are fine. Has anyone else tried a new 15" i7?
Thanks for your work on this, simply amazing.
Cheers,
Simon
Hi, sorry being late, was out of town without mac :(
http://download.plop.at/tmp/plpbt-5.0.12.zip is deleted,
So, i did test final version;
...\plpbt-5.0.12\plpbt.bin
v5.0.12 20110421
starfield on,
hdd boot OK,
usb boot OK,
sdcard boot without shift; .....device connected ---> hangs!
sdcard boot with shift; OK, but kb. hangs till OS is loaded.
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very quick boots, ty. :D
Quote from: waters on May 05, 2011, 12:37:03 PM
Hi, sorry being late, was out of town without mac :(
http://download.plop.at/tmp/plpbt-5.0.12.zip is deleted,
So, i did test final version;
...\plpbt-5.0.12\plpbt.bin
v5.0.12 20110421
starfield on,
hdd boot OK,
usb boot OK,
sdcard boot without shift; .....device connected ---> hangs!
sdcard boot with shift; OK, but kb. hangs till OS is loaded.
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very quick boots, ty. :D
Hi Waters,
What macbookpro are you testing with? I just want to see if you're testing with the same notebook. I'm using a 15" 2ghz i7 macbookpro.
I can tell you that I am unable to boot a USB pendrive with the latest 5.0.12 plpbt iso. I've tried different usb sticks and both ports and different versions of the live USB (all verified working on other machines) and after selecting USB from the menu, a blank window opens on the stars and nothing happens (even after a long wait.)
I'd love to see this working again.
Thanks
___ edit ___
When I got home from work today I created an ubuntu 10.04 usb boot disc using the directions on pendrivelinux.com and I am able to start the 32-bit version of ubuntu 10.04 lts - it lacks support for the wireless but at least I can boot it now! I've also tried the 64 bit versions of 10.04 and the latest 11.04 without success (using the ubuntu boot disc) and I'm in in the process of downloading 11.04 32-bit to try it next.
Hi, canadian_eh
i m using 13'' 2.66 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4-->8 GB, OSX 10.6.7,
model id; MacBookPro7,1
boot rom; MBP71.0039.B0B
smc ver.; 1.62f6
it is known as; April 2010 production, (not the newest 2011 ones which have
thunderbolt port),
2010 s have chipset nvidia MCP89,
2011 s are intel 6 series chipset.??? I think...
i have 3 partns,
1---> mac os, active, refit installed.
2---> win7, BCD 2.0 installed.
3---> ubuntu linux, grub 2 installed.
so, i can cycle to all of the bootloaders,
from refit, i chose win7 (because u cant usb boot from the refit)
win7 have BCD menu like;
... MAC OSX 10.6.7 (EFI)
... WIN 7 (32bit)
... Ubuntu
... Plop 5.0.10 ok
... Plop 5.0.12 (to boot from usb) ok
chosing plop and booting from usb.
plop is not installed , just read the docs how to add plop to win7, vista, etc... boot loader.
I also added plops to the ubuntu grub 2 loader, its ok too...
hi,
can somebody test this on a macbook http://download.plop.at/tmp/plpbt.bin
regards
elmar
I've tried your latest creature but it hangs, here I'm on a macbook pro. Tried also with ctrl + U it hangs, usb port 1 and port 2 same issue.
Best Regards
And as always thank you so much for your hard work.
Tony
Quote from: flyingsaucer on July 22, 2011, 08:47:16 AM
I've tried your latest creature but it hangs, here I'm on a macbook pro. Tried also with ctrl + U it hangs, usb port 1 and port 2 same issue.
Best Regards
And as always thank you so much for your hard work.
Tony
what macbook pro do you have? maybe its one with internal hubs?
is 5.0.12 working, or does it hang in the same way?
Hi,
v5.0.13-Test1
-usb boot; (w/o shift option) hangs...
freeze when "loading boot sector..."
-sd card boot; (w/o shift option) hangs...
freeze when "device connected"
-hdd boot; hangs...
freeze when "found valid bootsignature"
-cd boot; not tested; i m using a secondary hdd there (for Lion osx), so no more internal cd 8)
note: v5.0.12 still works fast and good.
hi waters,
i created now a new test version http://download.plop.at/tmp/plpbt.bin
please try it
Hi,
V5.0.13-Test3
hangs...
all freezes; just the same like V5.0.13-Test1
and now? same link, ignore the version in about
same again, all freeze :(
Quote from: waters on July 23, 2011, 17:42:00 PM
same again, all freeze :(
did you receive my email?
looking mail now..
hi,
version 5.0.13-test4 has been released.
http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanagerdl.html
best regards
elmar
Quote from: Elmar on July 22, 2011, 09:42:21 AM
Quote from: flyingsaucer on July 22, 2011, 08:47:16 AM
I've tried your latest creature but it hangs, here I'm on a macbook pro. Tried also with ctrl + U it hangs, usb port 1 and port 2 same issue.
Best Regards
And as always thank you so much for your hard work.
Tony
what macbook pro do you have? maybe its one with internal hubs?
is 5.0.12 working, or does it hang in the same way?
Sorry for answering late... MacBookPro5,3...... now trying latest plop revision
Bye
Tony
@flyingsaucer,
i ve tried plop 5.10, 5.12 and 5.13 on different versions of
MacBook Pro s : 2009 and 2010 (did not personaly have experienced 2011 s yet!)
and all went well.
i think your machine is a 2009 15 " mid. edition? A1286
it should work.
what is your original mac osx, 10.6.x?
and your windows ; win7, xp ?
do you have refit installed?
how did u install plop to boot loader or else tried other methods? (burn to a cd and try to boot?)
what is your usb os? (linux? mac? mac os wont boot in this method)
did u tried to boot usb from a pc and is it ok?
try to make other usb or sdcard os es and boot em on mac; if u have spare 2-4 gigs sticks.
Quote from: waters on August 04, 2011, 14:27:21 PM
@flyingsaucer,
i ve tried plop 5.10, 5.12 and 5.13 on different versions of
MacBook Pro s : 2009 and 2010 (did not personaly have experienced 2011 s yet!)
and all went well.
i think your machine is a 2009 15 " mid. edition? A1286
it should work.
what is your original mac osx, 10.6.x?
and your windows ; win7, xp ?
do you have refit installed?
how did u install plop to boot loader or else tried other methods? (burn to a cd and try to boot?)
what is your usb os? (linux? mac? mac os wont boot in this method)
did u tried to boot usb from a pc and is it ok?
try to make other usb or sdcard os es and boot em on mac; if u have spare 2-4 gigs sticks.
Thanks for your answer, I've tried another usb pen drive and hdd enclosure and now everything is ok.
Best Regards
Tony