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General Category => Boot Managers => Topic started by: khurramjavaid94 on April 27, 2011, 12:44:38 PM

Title: Mint OS hang by booting from a USB using PLOP.
Post by: khurramjavaid94 on April 27, 2011, 12:44:38 PM
I am new to plop and linux. I download plop, burned it on the disk (Not the latest version but 5.0.10). Booted the disk selected, selected USB as device to boot from . It boots from my usb but hangs at the Mint OS intro screen. Nothing works and i have to cut the power. Is the OS causing problem or boot manager. Everything works fine in the manager. Also i have Dell Optiplex 745 that do support booting from usb but i can't find it. Its not in the boot menu. How can i fix this.

Sorry for my bad English.
Title: Re: Mint OS hang by booting from a USB using PLOP.
Post by: Elmar on April 27, 2011, 13:04:25 PM
is there an usb keyboard connected?
Title: Re: Mint OS hang by booting from a USB using PLOP.
Post by: khurramjavaid94 on April 27, 2011, 13:13:08 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Mint OS hang by booting from a USB using PLOP.
Post by: khurramjavaid94 on April 27, 2011, 13:27:00 PM
I have tried both mode 1 and 2 on force USB 1.1.
If it do not support USB keyboard then how i am supposed to use the OS..??
Title: Re: Mint OS hang by booting from a USB using PLOP.
Post by: Elmar on April 27, 2011, 13:29:02 PM
Quote from: khurramjavaid94 on April 27, 2011, 13:13:08 PM
Yes.

i explained it often and i posted this a few days ago in another forum:

Quote
usb keyboards are working as long as you do not use the boot manager usb option.

why?

the keyboard is handled by the bios usb driver before you use the boot manager usb option. when you use the boot manager usb option, then the usb controller is not longer controlled by the bios -> no usb keyboard support by the bios. the boot manager has no usb keyboard driver -> no usb keyboard is working. when windows/linux is booted, then their usb drivers are taking control -> they have usb keyboard drivers -> the usb keyboard works again.

so you cannot use your keyboard when the boot manager on the usb drive has been started -> you have to add a timeout on you usb drive to boot the system without using the keyboard


Title: Re: Mint OS hang by booting from a USB using PLOP.
Post by: khurramjavaid94 on April 27, 2011, 13:31:54 PM
Oh! Got it. Thanks for the help.

P.S This thing rocks. :)
Title: Re: Mint OS hang by booting from a USB using PLOP.
Post by: khurramjavaid94 on April 27, 2011, 13:56:41 PM
New prob...How to add timeout?? is it possible?....lol i feel nobish...
Title: Re: Mint OS hang by booting from a USB using PLOP.
Post by: Elmar on April 27, 2011, 14:04:08 PM
Quote from: khurramjavaid94 on April 27, 2011, 13:56:41 PM
New prob...How to add timeout??....lol i feel nobish...

i don't know which boot manager is on the usb drive. without infos you cannot expect any answer
Title: Re: Mint OS hang by booting from a USB using PLOP.
Post by: khurramjavaid94 on April 27, 2011, 14:08:51 PM
The Menu where the keyboard stuck looks like this.
http://www.linuxmint.com/pictures/screenshots/julia/isolinux.png

To bad my PC don't support old School keyboards.
Title: Re: Mint OS hang by booting from a USB using PLOP.
Post by: khurramjavaid94 on April 27, 2011, 14:09:46 PM
I know the info that i gave ain't enough. but again i am new to this linux stuff.
Title: Re: Mint OS hang by booting from a USB using PLOP.
Post by: Elmar on April 27, 2011, 14:13:20 PM
do you have a syslinux.cfg on the usb drive?
Title: Re: Mint OS hang by booting from a USB using PLOP.
Post by: khurramjavaid94 on April 27, 2011, 14:16:30 PM
Lemme search.
Title: Re: Mint OS hang by booting from a USB using PLOP.
Post by: khurramjavaid94 on April 27, 2011, 14:17:07 PM
Found it...Now..??
Title: Re: Mint OS hang by booting from a USB using PLOP.
Post by: khurramjavaid94 on April 27, 2011, 14:19:18 PM
Opening the file in Notepad i found this "timeout_msg 0 #ffffffff" I am guessing adding time out has something to do with this..

Heres all in the file.
default vesamenu.c32

menu background splash.jpg
menu title Welcome to Linux Mint 10
menu color border 0 #00eeeeee #00000000
menu color sel 7 #ffffffff #33eeeeee
menu color title 0 #ffeeeeee #00000000
menu color tabmsg 0 #ffeeeeee #00000000
menu color unsel 0 #ffeeeeee #00000000
menu color hotsel 0 #ff000000 #ffffffff
menu color hotkey 7 #ffffffff #ff000000
menu color timeout_msg 0 #ffffffff #00000000
menu color timeout 0 #ffffffff #00000000
menu color cmdline 0 #ffffffff #00000000

label live
  menu label Start Linux Mint
  kernel /casper/vmlinuz
  append noprompt cdrom-detect/try-usb=true persistent file=/cdrom/preseed/mint.seed boot=casper initrd=/casper/initrd.lz quiet splash --
menu default
label xforcevesa
  menu label Start Linux Mint (compatibility mode)
  kernel /casper/vmlinuz
  append noprompt cdrom-detect/try-usb=true persistent file=/cdrom/preseed/mint.seed boot=casper xforcevesa initrd=/casper/initrd.lz ramdisk_size=1048576 root=/dev/ram rw noapic noapci nosplash irqpoll --
label memtest
  menu label Memory Test
  kernel memtest
label local
  menu label Boot from local drive
  localboot 0x80
Title: Re: Mint OS hang by booting from a USB using PLOP.
Post by: Elmar on April 27, 2011, 14:22:11 PM
add "timeout 100" below the "default vesamenu.c32".

100 = wait 10 seconds

more infos/options see syslinux homepage
Title: Re: Mint OS hang by booting from a USB using PLOP.
Post by: khurramjavaid94 on April 27, 2011, 14:36:54 PM
It Worked!! Currently posting this from Linux Mint booted from USB from a non supported bios.,,Cool..
Thankx A Lot..