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arcani

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I can't boot any hard disk partition
« on: April 09, 2010, 17:13:18 PM »
Hello,

First on my linux i followed lilo pre-instalation tips (http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html#liloinst). Then after reboot i have made full instalation of PloP. When after another reboot bootmanager appeared i could only boot from cd:( (im typing now using live cd). When i tried default harddisk boot i had black screen with "_" in the left upper corner of the screen and was not able to do anything.

Can you help me please? And what information about my computer do you need...

I have 2 disks (40GB and 80GB). I have installed windows xp, slax and ubuntu. Every system on other partition. I only remember slax is on linux /dev/sdb1
« Last Edit: April 09, 2010, 17:33:25 PM by arcani »

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Re: I can't boot any hard disk partition
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2010, 18:17:57 PM »
hi,
i am sure you ignored the warning to install lilo or grub to the boot sector of your linux.

what live cd do you use?
do you see the partitions with your live cd?
was your lilo installation from ubuntu or slax?

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Re: I can't boot any hard disk partition
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2010, 18:29:27 PM »
Firstable thanks for quick response:)

Well i'm newbie at linux. I have slax installed on harddrive and i didnt install additional lilo/grub in boot directory. I only copied plpinstc.com to /boot and changed lilo conf. Then i have runed lilo in terminal to update. Just like it was said in manual.

Now i'm using Ubuntu 9.10 live cd because on slax live cd internet doesn't work. I see only 2 partitions (in windows its disk F smaller one 40GB).

Maybe the reason of my problems is because first time in bootmanager i try to boot slax from usb? (It was my primary reason to install PloP).

I will give additional info what is in bootmanager:

In default next to cd, usb, floppy boot it was os harddisk2 81h (this one blinks with _ on black screen.

In partion section i have 4:

hda1  83h Linux
BP: 00 01 01 00 83 FE 7F 6C - 3F 00 00 00 EE 78 59 00
P1: 80 01 01 00 83 FE 7F 6C - 3F 00 00 00 EE 78 59 00
P2: 00 00 41 6D 0F FE FF FF - 2D 79 59 00 94 18 4F 04
P3 and P4 are only 0.

hda2 0Fh Win95 Extended LBA
BP: 00 00 41 6D 0F FE FF FF - 2D 79 59 00 94 18 4F 04
P1: 80 01 01 00 83 FE 7F 6C - 3F 00 00 00 EE 78 59 00
P2: 00 00 41 6D 0F FE FF FF - 2D 79 59 00 94 18 4F 04
P3 and P4 are only 0.

hdb1 07h HFPS/NTFS
BP: 00 01 01 00 07 FE FF FF - 3F 00 00 00 E1 DB 02 01
P1: 81 01 01 00 07 FE FF FF - 3F 00 00 00 E1 DB 02 01
P2: 00 00 C1 FF 0F FE FF FF - 20 DC 02 01 9D 0D 4D 08
P3: only 0
P4: 00 01 01 00 07 FE FF FF - 3F 00 00 00 E1 DB 02 01

hdb2 0Fh Win95 Extended LBA
BP: 00 00 C1 FF 0F FE FF FF - 20 DC 02 01 9D 0D 4D 08
P1: 81 01 01 00 07 FE FF FF - 3F 00 00 00 E1 DB 02 01
P2: 00 00 C1 FF 0F FE FF FF - 20 DC 02 01 9D 0D 4D 08
P3: only 0
P4: 00 01 01 00 07 FE FF FF - 3F 00 00 00 E1 DB 02 01
« Last Edit: April 09, 2010, 18:45:49 PM by arcani »

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Re: I can't boot any hard disk partition
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2010, 18:44:09 PM »
check with your live cd if /dev/sdb1 is slax.


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Re: I can't boot any hard disk partition
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2010, 18:50:14 PM »
Yes it is.

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Re: I can't boot any hard disk partition
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2010, 18:52:56 PM »
is there the file etc/lilo.conf on this partition? if yes, then post it

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Re: I can't boot any hard disk partition
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2010, 18:54:18 PM »
Yes.


boot = /dev/hdb
prompt
timeout = 20
change-rules
reset
vga = normal
image = /boot/vmlinuz
  root = current
  label = SLAX
  read-only
image=/boot/plpinstc.com
label=plop-instal

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Re: I can't boot any hard disk partition
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2010, 18:57:46 PM »
when you booted, was lilo the first what you have seen after the bios boot screen, or was there something else, maybe grub? what ubuntu version did you install to the harddisk?

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Re: I can't boot any hard disk partition
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2010, 19:00:51 PM »
When i first rebooted after copying file and modyfing lil.conf i had screen with only 2 options lilo and plop. When i choosed plop it gets me to the instalation screen.

I have installed Ubuntu 9.10. I have never installed grub earlier (at least manually).
« Last Edit: April 09, 2010, 19:02:59 PM by arcani »

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Re: I can't boot any hard disk partition
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2010, 19:03:36 PM »
i mean before you installed plop.
i assume, ubuntu installed grub at the first harddisk as first boot manager
in which order did you install the systems. forget plop for the moment. i want to restore the situation before plop

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Re: I can't boot any hard disk partition
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2010, 19:09:35 PM »
First was xp (many years ago), then ubuntu (installed as windows application) and the last was slax (installed using advice finded on internet).

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Re: I can't boot any hard disk partition
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2010, 19:22:53 PM »
And 1 more thing maybe important.

Windows and Ubuntu are installed on        IDE-0:WDC WD800BB-75DKA0
Slax is installed on second physical disk:  IDE-1:WDC WD400BB-00DEA0

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Re: I can't boot any hard disk partition
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2010, 19:30:21 PM »
how did you boot windows?

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Re: I can't boot any hard disk partition
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2010, 19:33:06 PM »
after bios boot there was screen with 2 options: Windows XP and Windows Recovery i think. In default after 2 seconds XP was starting. When i installed Ubuntu it was as a third option in this screen.

To start slax with lilo i had to change bios boot sequency options.
« Last Edit: April 09, 2010, 19:35:49 PM by arcani »

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Re: I can't boot any hard disk partition
« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2010, 19:39:08 PM »
after bios boot there was screen with 2 options: Windows XP and Windows Recovery i think. In default after 2 seconds XP was starting. When i installed Ubuntu it was as a third option in this screen.

To start slax with lilo i had to change bios boot sequency options.
that are very important infos.

whats the bootup sequence now?



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Re: I can't boot any hard disk partition
« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2010, 19:41:47 PM »
In bios? have to check it now.

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Re: I can't boot any hard disk partition
« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2010, 19:51:13 PM »
1st device:  IDE-1:WDC WD400BB-00DEA0   (slax)
2nd device: IDE-0:WDC WD800BB-75DKA0   (windows and ubuntu)

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Re: I can't boot any hard disk partition
« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2010, 19:58:43 PM »
open a terminal and run following
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sudo bash
mkdir /slax
mount /dev/sdb1 /slax
chroot /slax
lilo

if you get no error, then lilo should start after a reboot


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Re: I can't boot any hard disk partition
« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2010, 20:05:54 PM »
hmm... as i already told im linux newbie:/

First i copied whole code and use enter (probably wrong instead line by line)

it was warning:
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Warning: LBA32 addressing assumed
Fatal: raid_setup: stat("/dev/hdb")

Than when i was bash-3.1# i try to typed line by line and error occured:
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bash-3.1# mount /dev/sdb1 /slax
mount: you must specify the filesystem type

Here is whole log what i did:
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ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo bash
root@ubuntu:~# mkdir /slax
root@ubuntu:~# mount /dev/sdb1 /slax
root@ubuntu:~# chroot /slax
bash-3.1# lilo
Warning: LBA32 addressing assumed
Fatal: raid_setup: stat("/dev/hdb")
bash-3.1#
bash-3.1# sudo bash
bash: sudo: command not found
bash-3.1# mkdir /slax
bash-3.1# mount /dev/sdb1 /slax
mount: you must specify the filesystem type
bash-3.1#

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Re: I can't boot any hard disk partition
« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2010, 20:10:21 PM »
download a plop linux live cd, boot the cd and run
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mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt
chroot /mnt
lilo


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Re: I can't boot any hard disk partition
« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2010, 20:15:38 PM »
I downloaded poplinux-v4.0.4.iso (63.8 MB) but how can i burn it when i use now ubuntu live cd (i don't have 2 cdroms)?
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Re: I can't boot any hard disk partition
« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2010, 20:18:36 PM »
if you set the boot sequence that the windows harddisk is the first, then windows should boot. didn't you try this?

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Re: I can't boot any hard disk partition
« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2010, 20:30:13 PM »
Ech... when i changed IDE-0:WDC WD800BB-75DKA0 as a 1st device, after bios booting screen, there was only 1 sentence (my translation): Error while loading operating system:((

I'm still on live cd:/

Before posting on forum (3 hours ago) I was trying change some things in bootmanager setup, maybe i broke something?
« Last Edit: April 09, 2010, 20:33:41 PM by arcani »

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Re: I can't boot any hard disk partition
« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2010, 20:38:02 PM »
are you able to provide me a remote desktop connection? send me you ip as private message.

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Re: I can't boot any hard disk partition
« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2010, 20:46:39 PM »
Is my message reach you?

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Re: I can't boot any hard disk partition
« Reply #25 on: April 09, 2010, 20:48:33 PM »
yes,
in the menu at the top go to system -> preferences -> remote desktop

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Re: I can't boot any hard disk partition
« Reply #26 on: April 09, 2010, 21:08:18 PM »
I was trying now to reboot. Screen with 3 options Windows XP Real, Windows Recovery and Ubuntu appears. When i choose xp it has started loaded but than flashed with blue screen and comp restarted. i was also trying alert/safe mode. The same result.

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Re: I can't boot any hard disk partition
« Reply #27 on: April 09, 2010, 21:35:15 PM »
still not working...

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Re: I can't boot any hard disk partition
« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2010, 15:05:19 PM »
Now it works all again:) Thank you for your help Elmar.

I think you are doing here an amazing job;)

Best wishes