PLOP Installing on 2048 byte Sector Size ?

Started by mbzadegan, March 31, 2012, 10:22:54 AM

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mbzadegan

Hi,
i have a pendrive that its sector size = 2048 byte and not 512 byte !
How i could bootable it with plop or plppart32 ?

Elmar

hi,

Quote from: mbzadegan on March 31, 2012, 10:22:54 AM
i have a pendrive that its sector size = 2048 byte and not 512 byte !

thats very unusual

Quote from: mbzadegan on March 31, 2012, 10:22:54 AM
How i could bootable it with plop or plppart32 ?

this sentence makes no sense. please explain exactly what you want to do.

elmar

mbzadegan

When i plugged my device and run plppart32.exe these message note me !


D:\>plppart32.exe -d 1 -i
PLPPART32 v0.1 20070403 by Elmar Hanlhofer http://www.plop.at

Using physical drive 2

Error reading device

Elmar

that means that plppart32 is not able to access the device

mbzadegan

Quote from: Elmar on March 31, 2012, 11:17:00 AM
that means that plppart32 is not able to access the device
yes,ofcourse .
BUT how i can do it ?
yesterday i could bootable my another 32GB usb device with PLOP OK .but this pendrive [ SONY WALKMAN 4GB ] could not bootable because of its sector size .
Additional information about this device @ :
http://www.sony-asia.com/product/nwz-b163f/sku/nwz-b163f_bce
http://reboot.pro/16292/
Thanks for helping me .


Elmar

Quote from: mbzadegan on March 31, 2012, 11:34:16 AM
BUT how i can do it ?

how should i know that? you didn't say what operating system you use. maybe its a permission problem, maybe its something else

Quote from: mbzadegan on March 31, 2012, 11:34:16 AM
yesterday i could bootable my another 32GB usb device with PLOP OK .

"bootable" is the wrong word in this context. "yesterday, i booted another" would be more understandable.

Quote from: mbzadegan on March 31, 2012, 11:34:16 AM
but this pendrive [ SONY WALKMAN 4GB ] could not bootable because of its sector size .
Additional information about this device @ :
http://www.sony-asia.com/product/nwz-b163f/sku/nwz-b163f_bce
http://reboot.pro/16292/
Thanks for helping me .

what kind of operating system do you want to boot from the pendrive?


mbzadegan

plppart32.exe means that i try in windows envirounment but if i must running an application in LINUX envirounment , i can do this .

Elmar

Quote from: mbzadegan on March 31, 2012, 11:47:48 AM
plppart32.exe means that i try in windows envirounment

i know that it is windows but what windows? 2k, xp, vista, win7 ???????

however, why do you need plppart32?

mbzadegan

i used Windows seven and run plppart32 as administrator but i used fedora and backtrack normally .
Ok, That's right , i don't know that how i start bootabling procedure and thanks so much if you guide me how i start ( for non 512 byte sector size ) .


Elmar

Quote from: mbzadegan on March 31, 2012, 14:28:51 PM
Ok, That's right , i don't know that how i start bootabling procedure and thanks so much if you guide me how i start ( for non 512 byte sector size ) .

direct boot from that drive is not possible with software that is available. the only way to boot something from the drive is to use linux on the drive and load the kernel and initrd from for example a cd.

the plop boot manager cannot help. installing the boot manager to that drive makes no sense. even when the boot manager would support 2048 byte sectors, who should do the initial boot manager loading? using the plop boot manager to boot the usb drive would also make no sense, because IMHO no linux loader supports a sector size  that is not 512 byte.

mbzadegan

BUT i could bootabling my another 32GB USB Flash with plop and it booted ok !!
I think that plop need some parameters for 2048 bytes sector size .

Elmar

Quote from: mbzadegan on March 31, 2012, 17:55:34 PM
BUT i could bootabling my another 32GB USB Flash with plop and it booted ok !!

yes, because all boot related parts are designed to work with a sector size of 512 bytes.

Quote from: mbzadegan on March 31, 2012, 17:55:34 PM
I think that plop need some parameters for 2048 bytes sector size .

you cannot set any parameters, because i did not implement the support for 2048 byte sectors. and even when i implement 2048 byte sectors it will not work, because you hang with the program that loads the kernel.

and dont forget, if kernel loading works, then you can boot this drive only when the plop boot manager is used to boot this drive.